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April 12, 2009

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New America wrote:"Edgar Steele would agree with you.

He has suffered long in the company of WNists, and to little practical avail.

His last Rant dealt favorably with Christianity."

Listen to it again. I found it to be anti-Christ. He begins talking about how he likes church, but halfway through begins saying that Christian holidays are just pagan myths. Its a common lawyer tactic... to begin praising something then shift into undermining it.

Steele seems to be saying that church and Christians are great and he wants their votes (typical of his new political move), but he doesn't actually believe in Christ. He wants to take the control of the organization away from Christ.

Its funny how he decided to run for office then suddenly realized that he's a Christian on the same day...

When the guy from RusJournal was on Peter's show he was asked "what do we do to combat this problem?" Johnson's reply was on the lines of "Wow! good question, nobody has ever asked me that before" and this is the core problem.

Saying "damn nigger this" and "damn jew that" to ad nauseum doesn't change anything. We need more people offering solutions and Peter is the only one doing it and thats why he has my support.

Hopefully if he brings back his show, he will go on with this format and brings in more people who will do likewise.

One of my goals in interviewing people like Matt Johnson and Dr. Kevin MacDonald, was to pick their brain and see what they could offer in the way of assistance.

They all answered in the afirmative. They would gladly help in any way possible. That was one of my goals with VoR, to assemble a "think tank" of various experts who could create an "intellectual base" for a Pro-Western Civilization network, that could possibly translate into a political movement in the future.

Much like talk radio of the 90's contributed to the republican revolution of 1994; I had hoped that VoR could contribute to a third rail uniting Pro-White, Patriot and Anti-NWO factions.

Unfortunately, I am no longer with the network I helped found, and my idea is floundering at the network under the mismanagement of the Network "leadership".

Thanks for your comments. I will have a new broadcast posted this Wednesday.

Flash player or the download are working well.

Agree with Selatcia: for Steele seems Christianity is something useful now, but that you can through away in other opportunity. Freemansory worked a lot in XVIII and XIX centuries, everywhere in the world, to bring this mentality.

Remember, the biggest enemy for them is Christianity with Catholicism (the True one, not this "newchurch") in the front row. And this was the main aim of Freemasonry.

And I really don't see better place to find guidelines to our mevements as in Catholicism - read the Encyclicals, Saints writings, scholars writings, etc. Is all there.

"Wherefore We command most strictly and in virtue of holy obedience, all the faithful of whatever state, grade, condition, order, dignity or pre-eminence, whether clerical or lay, secular or regular, even those who are entitled to specific and individual mention, that none, under any pretext or for any reason, shall dare or presume to enter, propagate or support these aforesaid societies of Liberi Muratori or Francs Massons [Freemasons], or however else they are called, or to receive them in their houses or dwellings or to hide them, be enrolled among them, joined to them, be present with them, give power or permission for them to meet elsewhere, to help them in any way, to give them in any way advice, encouragement or support either openly or in secret, directly or indirectly, on their own or through others; nor are they to urge others or tell them, incite or persuade them to be enrolled in such societies or to be counted among their number, or to be present or to assist them in any way; but they must stay completely clear of such Societies, Companies, Assemblies, Meetings, Congregations or Conventicles, under pain of excommunication for all the above mentioned people, which is incurred by the very deed without any declaration being required, and from which no one can obtain the benefit of absolution, other than at the hour of death, except through Ourselves or the Roman Pontiff of the time."
IN EMINENTI
ON FREEMASONRY
PAPAL BULL OF POPE CLEMENT XII
April 28, 1738

"to our movements" - to our efforts

"movement" - is a term already too misused

Another good one:

QUO GRAVIORA
APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION OF POPE LEO XII
March 13, 1826
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo12/l12quogr.htm

"From which sects that one must especially be mentioned which is called Universitaria, because it has a seat and domicile in many universities of learning, in which the young are informed, initiated to, and fashioned for every crime by some teachers, who are zealous not to teach them, but to pervert them by the mysteries of the same sect which ought to be called most truly the mysteries of iniquity."

Nobody can say "we didn’t told you so!"

Peter, I think it has been said before, but frankly, I think those guys wanted to use you to help them get the network going and that is the only purpose they had for you. Maybe I am wrong, but it sure seems like it.

the player is working on this end too.

in reply to maurice:

I lack the time to debate theology, and this is not the time or place to do so.

That having been said, Roman Catholic Social Thought - Belloc, Chesterton, et. al; - developed a social economic model called Distributivism, where labor at least is accorded a positive value.

That might be work looking into, if you want to defend the Roman Catholic Institution.

That might do all of us some good.

I'm not going to discuss this any more.


in reply to Salatcia:

you wrote:
New America wrote:"Edgar Steele would agree with you.

He has suffered long in the company of WNists, and to little practical avail.

His last Rant dealt favorably with Christianity."

Listen to it again. I found it to be anti-Christ. He begins talking about how he likes church, but halfway through begins saying that Christian holidays are just pagan myths. Its a common lawyer tactic... to begin praising something then shift into undermining it.

Steele seems to be saying that church and Christians are great and he wants their votes (typical of his new political move), but he doesn't actually believe in Christ. He wants to take the control of the organization away from Christ.

Its funny how he decided to run for office then suddenly realized that he's a Christian on the same day...

in reply:
I can't argue with you on this; the transformation of Christianity from the Year Zero to Constantine leaves many issues open concerning the development of Christianity at the Institutional level.

As I told one go at the grocery store, when he asked my why I wasn't buying boxes of Easter candy and Easter rabbits, "Damn, I must have missed the part where the Apostles went on the Easter Egg Hunt."

My Christian theology does not limit Christ to the three years of the Incarnation, but has Him working to guide Mankind pretty much from Day One, and has Him still working to guide Mankind back Home.

That having been said, I note that Brother Steele seems to have picked up the foundation of his points from some posts on VoR addressing why the Leadership is so foolish as to mock Christianity as a matter of course, and policy.

If Ed ultimately comes to Christ through some variation on Pagan Gnosticism, I'll be happy.

I agree with your basic point, and your secondary point - the remarkably useful timing of Ed's attending Church as he becomes formally involved in politics.

I'll settle for what I can get, knowing that - or at least, believing - that Edgar Steele fought long and hard in court, and in the court of public opinion, for the Race, and - let's not mince words - it has cost him dearly.

I suspect each of us who become "White Nationalists" actually start with a Quickening that leads us to emotionally identify with, and support, The Cause - the carrying forward of the dynamic unity of Christianity and Western Civilization through the vehicle of the White Race.

How bitter it must be to see so many of those who self-identify as "White Nationalists" to be people who have trouble functioning in a normal society, and are trapped in a subculture of subpotent men, and ineffective, immature, relationships.

I went through my Long, Dark Night Of The Soul when I was removed from my Family, and then, to add insult to injury, I ended up not being transferred to Destiny City when our facility shut down a few years ago.

And I was TOLD by the Big Boss, "There is no room for Nazi's around here"; this, after a casual comment supporting the economic policies of the NSDAP Cultural Moment to an old guy working in the warehouse WHO READ AND QUOTED FROM THE AMERICAN FREE PRESS NEWSPAPER.

In short, I was informed on by someone who I thought certainly shared the bond of Racial Kinship with me.

I was wrong.

And, remember, Edgar is too much of a man to show his anger at those he loved for being so unlovable, the White Nationalists he has fought so hard for over the years, and are just about the most ungrateful, cheap-ass sons of bitches you will ever meet.

Only once, briefly, did Edgar mention how many White Nationalists over the years asked him to form the equivalent on a SPLC for us, for OUR Race. One and all promised mightily to send tons of money to him if he would just give them the chance.

So, Ed started this fund, and got a pitiful amount from the White Nationalist Community; it was less than my old office spent on coffee in a month, and we got our coffee from Dunkin' Donuts.

I don't disagree with the basic thrust of your comment concerning Edgar Steele.

But he's in church at all, and that's a step in the right direction.

And, he can walk in the doors of a lot of churches, and perhaps, just perhaps, might give the idea of White Nationalism a lot more legitimacy than it has now.

The irony - he might do more for our Race as a candidate for office, than he ever could as an attorney.

He might make some more money, too; hopefully, a lot more.

We need Elder Statesmen who can dress the part, speak the part, look the part, and act the part.

In a post on VNN I imagined what Bob Mathews and David Lane might have done if they had resisted the impulse to use the one tool the System is designed to destroy - force - and focused on developing philosophies, and communities.

Ultimately, certainly Bob Mathews could have been a Senator from Idaho.

Perhaps, just perhaps, Edgar Steele could be the Senator from Idaho that Bob Mathews could have been.

If not, then he can make straight the way for the one who follows him, who WILL be the Senator from Idaho Bob Mathews could have been.

In the meantime, he can provide an example for us on how we can actually stand for political office, effectively.

In the meantime, he's in church, and he's representing the best of us while he is there.

And, if he hears The Call, and answers it, so much the better.


I also think we don't have do debate theology here.
But imagine if at that time (before French Revolution!) people had heard the Pope's message!
We can find a lot of studies about secret societies (goyims doing the work for the JWO) with other catholics. Leon de Poncins, Msgr. Henri Delassus, Cardinal José Maria Caro, Maurice Pinay (pseudonym), Julio Meinvielle, Arthur Kenneth Chesterton (G.K. cousin), Msgr. Ernest Jouin, the Popes Encyclicals and Bulls and many others.

I agree also for these writers about Distributism.

I mentioned Pope Leo XII advising about secret societies in universities. Like the Skull & Bones of Bush.
Imagine that the Burschenschaft of XIX century in Germany originated the Bucha in Brazil that had not less than 7 presidents in that country!
Burschenschaft originated from the Illuminati of Weishaupt.

Peter, do you listen to the political cesspool? It would be a good program to unite with. TPC used to be great, then they went to RBN to up the ante a little, and the commercials were a killer IMO. Now they are with Liberty Radio and these people charge 99 a month archives so I don't even listen now.

thepoliticalcesspool.org

They are going to be simulcasting with VoR, so I don't think I will be joining forces with them any time soon.

Another new show that jumped on board due to my interview with Gordon Baum, (CofCC)

A Pattern now seems obvious:

The VoR is doing all in its power to try to fill the schedule with all manner of hosts, and no coherent theme whatsoever, simply to do something they didn't care to do for the last year, which is (1) fill the schedule (2)with hosts organized around a coherent theme.

Now, in a mad rush, VoR is running everyone that, with the exception of Dr. Johnson, is being run somewhere else. Is there any doubt that Edgar Steele can now get all of the time he need on RBN's Rick Adams?

No.

So, that leaves VoR with, uniquely, the Friday Night Show - Dietrich and Mishko - and The Patriot Dames, who I predict will be returning to VoR sooner, rather than later.

And, they may well end up on RBN (some blocks still available!), or GCN.

It might be the only reason that hasn't happened yet is because they could not guarantee on-time delivery of the show.

It might be that was a hidden agenda that started appearing when it was obvious that Program Director Peter Schaenk was constructively neutralized in his efforts to meet the stated corporate mission goals.

By the way, Peter, thanks for turning on the html!

By the way, I just realized something.

If VoR is simulcasting the political cesspool guys:

One, they are not running the more sophisticated Gordon Baum. Different demographic.

Two, it seems the political cesspool (no, I am not going to make the obvious joke!) will expand (sorry!) to be simulcast on VoR, AND RBN.

In short, VoR might seem to be a simulcaster WITH RBN.

I can see a lot of opportunities here, with VoR being a simulcaster OF RBN for all but one or two shows.

You know, if I was a shrewd and cunning Patriotard broadcaster, and I could find some way to get full advantage of Peter's good name, contacts, and painfully gained experience, without having Peter in the scene anywhere at all, I would...

On second thought...

No.

No one can be THAT shrewd, and THAT cunning.

Incompetent?

Yes.

I know people who could easily be that incompetent.

I know them all too well.

The Political Cesspool is no longer with RBN, to the best of my knowledge.

in reply to Peter Schaenk:

Sorry.

I thought they were.

Maybe their time was needed for the Patriot Dames!

;)

Hi Peter,

Glad to hear you are starting a new network. Perhaps to get the ball rolling you should getting in touch with some great hosts like Mike Delaney, Brother Nathanael, John De Nugent and maybe Mark Faust. That would be a line-up for starters.

I have plenty of other suggestions too.

- Frank

Mark Faust is part of the "anti-Christ" crowd at VNN. I don't think he will be coming over to our side for a quite some time.

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