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April 08, 2009

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"The Roman Catholics in America vote to support abortion in overwhelming percentages."
These ones, mainly from mexico, I believe, athough they call themselves "catholics", have nothing to do with the Infallible Constitution of the Vatican Council(1870).

"And this was also the sole cause why God
established marriage from the beginning ; whence, married persons, who, by medicine, either prevent conception or procure
abortion, are guilty of a most heinous crime; for this is to be considered an impious conspiracy of murderers."
CATECHISM OF THE COUNCIL OF TRENT

Hey, katman.

Do you know anything about Violet Nichols' parents? Do you happen to know their names? Let me know if you do.

I found out the names of Mookie's parents. I know his father's full name. It's really Jewey. ;-)

Let's face it, Dietrich is an arrogant pompous annoying asshole, always was and always will be.

I never liked him when I first heard his stupid voice and fake persona back on VNN

It was transparently obvious he was trying to be an Alex Linder clone but none of the intelligence or deep insight.

He's simply a failed tech hack with an overblown sense of himself.

That's the fact.

FYI: Susie was married to a 32nd degree Freemason.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

This is not so terrible - one can repent; but you saw her defending freemasonry?
http://reasonradionetwork.com/?p=1874&cpage=1

She wrote a puff piece on Freemasonry, saying it was nothing more than a fraternal order interested in helping society.

It was on VoR. It was one of her last articles before getting the axe.

She completely ignored the Jewish connection vis a vie the Kabbalah.

It was classic Susie. You need a road map to understand her logic.

I had also heard recently she was married to a freemason.

Alex Linder is a judaic
Dietrich '''
Susie''''''''
metzger'''''''
fatty arbuckle.....
etc''''''

She told this in one show.

Off topic but talking about this filth:

Is That the Masonic Handshake Blair Is Giving Benedict-Ratzinger?
Blair Has Publicly Proclaimed in an Article for a "Gay" Magazine
That the Bible's Morality Should Be Rejected as Erroneous

http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0904.htm

wolf, i wasn't going to say anything but since you brought it up, I will have to concur. I thought that the first time I heard him and read some of his commments. But he is a young man and I figured, well cut him some slack, let it be. But now that this stuff has hit the fan, so to speak, the gloves can come off. You always catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. This incessant need to be arrogant etc, is a trait I have found numerous times since the days I met mookie and others. I don't understand the egocentricity of these people and what their real problem is. Humbleness is the way the way to go. This thing that we are talking about here, is bigger than any of ourselves. We are talking about the survival of a race of people. I mean, what could be more clear? What could be more important? Self and selfish ideas must take a place far back in line of the need structure at this perilous time in our national history and our racial history.

zog, someone has a video of mookie's wife admitting her jewishness. I know they do. I have seen it talked about. If that video could be found , this confession by mrs jones, would put a end to any guessing about mookie's true intentions. of course now, it is no where on the net. i know. i have searched for it ever since this situation started over at real jew news. I find it strange that jones married a jew. Why would a jew, convert to Christianity to marry jones? Makes no sense. Is this the best she can do? I wonder if she is a sayanim. if she is, and of course there is a very good chance of it, then we can say also that in the case of GCN radio.........the jews have won again....it never stops does it? the jews know how to push the buttons of men and appeal to the baser instincts of man and in this case, it was and always was greed albeit on a small scale, per se. but greed nevertheless. so let us say, that mr jones was 'turned' sometime in the late 90's , and his course was layed out for him and those who wish to listen to him since that time perhaps. so now we see how successful he is and it makes one wonder. how can this be? how can someone who wants to tell the truth about what is really happening be so successful? how indeed? the answer is simple. he is telling some truth, but not all of it. He leaves out the most important parts that have to do with the jew. So then one would have to ask, since he is so wildly successful, then who is pushing him and that station? So then we can conclude that GCN for sure, is a mossad operation perhaps, a flypaper operation from day one, perhaps. to fool the fools. yes i was a fool for a while, but then i grew up. the stupidity of the american people knows no bounds.

*sigh*

I said there was another post that was almost immediately deleted on VoR.

This is the post that preceded it:

# New America on April 7th, 2009 2:24 am

in reply to admin:

Sorry for my misunderstanding re Peter’s understanding, and your understanding, and my misunderstanding.

Hope all of this works out for the best.

And THIS is the post that was quickly deleted.

# Peter Schaenk on April 7th, 2009 3:10 am

“Conner is acting with the full backing of the rest of us.”

I have heard that one before. Hahahahahahaha.


With his last show, Steele came out in favor of Christianity.

You know, this is absolutely tragic.

VoR COULD have been an amazing tool for developing the foundation of a much better social order.

All it would have taken was backing Peter's basic decisions.

And, the fact that the War of the Passive Aggression seems to have been underway against Peter since he was asked to be Program Director, really is all you need to know.

I don't know if the Patriot Dames will be on GCN this week or not; I don't go to GCN, and I never will.

But, if I was GCN, I would name their show "The Voices of Reason."

Then I'd sit back and have a damn big laugh at how easy it was to roll VoR.

My God, it just might be they could barely contain their laughter as they announced the show:

"And now, our own Patriot Dames who are fighting The New World Order, *paroxyms of laughter barely contained,* 'The Voices of Reason.'"

in reply to Peter Schaenk:

you wrote, concerning Susie:

It was on VoR. It was one of her last articles before getting the axe.

in reply:
I thought VoR used the word "FORCED" to announce that they would not be broadcasting the Patriot Dames, as in, oh, I don't know, "cease and desist letter," something like that.

That was immediately preceded by the famous thread, posted by Susie, that was little more than an advertisement for a GCN host, his radio show on GCN, his seed business on GCN, and, when you connect the dots, GCN.

That was so mindboggling that I put the entire thread of GCN advertisng with Dietrich's recent statements of big plans, and rapid expansion together with it, and said, "Well, VoR must be going with GCN."

I haven't heard any denials from VoR on this, so it might be that the carrot is being dangled.

So, between the announcement of you as Program Director, and the War of the Passive Aggression, I see one thing - what seems to be an attempt to trade on your good name for the purposes of establishing legitimacy, followed by throwing you over the side, and taking VoR under GCN's wings.

And, I must admit, I was spoofed.

I seriously considered Dietrich's claims of leaving the country to meet mysterious possible foreign benefactors.

I took that seriously, and I, well, have learned the lesson.

I told him that this would simply be a trap, and it was.

The trap was for me, intellectually, and not for himself, personally.

Replaying it, I can hear what seems to be an irrational exuberance in his voice as he says these things, almost as if he can't believe he is saying them, and who, who or Earth, would be gullible enough to believe them?

Well, from now on, nobody.


("So, between the announcement of you as Program Director, and the War of the Passive Aggression, I see one thing - what seems to be an attempt to trade on your good name for the purposes of establishing legitimacy, followed by throwing you over the side, and taking VoR under GCN's wings.

And, I must admit, I was spoofed.")

Me too!

I thought I was working with honest men who wanted to put together a coalition of WN, Patriots, Christians and other like minded people.

They needed my credibility to get it off the ground. "The voice of experience" as they put it.

The scales fell off my eyes the minute I looked behind the curtain and started making suggestions that required a simple fix, and it was like moving Mount Rushmore to get any traction with the men in charge.

Simple things like: a bumper sticker. It took one year to accomplish this,

T-Shirts: Still waiting.

Remember the announcement from Dietrich about the billboards? Remember my announcement? Still waiting.

Create an editorial staff, (one person would suffice) to prevent the various hosts from posting nonsense, (Ads for GCN products for example). The network should be in charge of posting news stories to create continuity and stay on message.

All of this helps the network gain credibility. That is the key to a successful network.

Credibility.

This is why I refuse to let VoR spin this story in such a way that will damage my credibility.

I left the network because of the incompetence and duplicity of the VoR "leadership".

If the reverse were true, they would have fired me and would have been justified in doing so.

New America, your analysis of the situation is very accurate. I would add that your comments regarding GCN, are not verifiable at this point in time.

I would suggest that the events of the last few weeks have more to do with incompetence on the part of Dietrich and less to do with some behind the scenes machinations involving GCN and the VoR "leadership".

I will say this; Ed Steele is a big proponent of getting Tard / survivalist sponsors and became very impatient at my reluctance to approach these sponsors on behalf of his show.

I suggested using the PBS model, and work with donations and grants from like minded individuals and organizations.

But this would put the money in the network's hand and not the individual host's program.

Ed laughed at the idea and sarcastically remarked, " Well I guess I should make T-Shirts and bumper stickers?"

I said, "That's not a bad idea. You could also sell your book."

He hung up and that was the last time I spoke to Ed other than my phone call to tell him I was leaving the network.

Ed is a lawyer. Do the math.

The more I look into the "world of Internet radio", the more I see individual egos fighting for dominance and audience share.

Money is also a large motivating factor.

In fairness to all concerned, you have to have some amount of ego to speak into a microphone and tell the world what you think.

But the Network should always be "above the fray", as their function is to create a coalition of "egos", and keep the team intact.

If the leadership of the Network desires the limelight, then the network is doomed.

Stadtmiller at RBN, is an example of this folly and now Deitrich at VoR.

Bernays was successful for this very reason. He stayed behind the scenes to do his job. He didn't crave the limelight.

I was ready to stop broadcasting as Program Director, and suggested I do so when first offered the position. I didn't want the other hosts to think my decisions were based on my desire to take them out of the limelight and jockey my program into a position of dominance.

If my plans as Program Director would have moved forward, I would have eventually stopped broadcasting altogether, or I would have given the job as PD, to someone else, once the Network infrastructure was in place.

A Network becomes a "network", when it is run by an egomaniacal individual that practices "the Peter Principal" and keeps the mediocre staff in place, to prevent any threat to the hierarchy in charge.

This is what we are witnessing today on the major Internet "networks".

The exception being GCN, where Ted Anderson has enough snap to stay out of the limelight and promote Alex Jones, while he stays behind the scenes selling gold-plated-horse-manure.

This is why GCN is the most successful network and Jones is the most successful broadcaster on the Internet.

Organization and discipline trump raw talent every time. Just look at the success of the Roman Army.


Peter said :

"I will say this; Ed Steele is a big proponent of getting Tard / survivalist sponsors and became very impatient at my reluctance to approach these sponsors on behalf of his show."

reply:

What is funny about money is that it wont be as big of a problem once you have gained credibility. This wont happen if you turn to Tard advertising. Sure it has worked for Alex Jones but his program is one of impotence and fear. We want to actually overcome fear and impotence. Tard ads and products attract the people we DO NOT want and frankly goes against what we are trying to accomplish. Buying seeds and water filters and hiding out in the woods is not a solution.

If you gain the attention of the proper people, (and this happens by having integrity) you will get 10 bucks a month from them and then you wont need to turn to the snake oil salesmen. Ron Paul said that the 15 million he raised was mostly from 10 dollar and 100 dollar donations from individuals.

But like you said the money must go to the cause and not to line people pocket books. This is also essential to keep credbility.

I swear, these guys keep making the same damn mistakes expecting a different result. It is amazing to me.

Thanks for trying to keep them honest Peter.

in reply to Peter Schaenk:

Thanks for filling in some of the blanks - an apt metaphor for the historic WNist "Community."

Some points:

you wrote:
*snip my comment*
I thought I was working with honest men who wanted to put together a coalition of WN, Patriots, Christians and other like minded people.

They needed my credibility to get it off the ground. "The voice of experience" as they put it.

The scales fell off my eyes the minute I looked behind the curtain and started making suggestions that required a simple fix, and it was like moving Mount Rushmore to get any traction with the men in charge.

Simple things like: a bumper sticker. It took one year to accomplish this,

T-Shirts: Still waiting.

Remember the announcement from Dietrich about the billboards? Remember my announcement? Still waiting.

in reply:
It seems all too obvious that nothing got done, because the Management of VoR didn't WANT anything to get done.

The War of the Passive Aggression.

They DID need YOUR good name, YOU credibility, YOUR contacts.

Ans that seems to have been all they really wanted you for.

you wrote:
Create an editorial staff, (one person would suffice) to prevent the various hosts from posting nonsense, (Ads for GCN products for example). The network should be in charge of posting news stories to create continuity and stay on message.

in reply:
Putting one person in charge of editorial efforts is just common sense - one Voice.

However, "prevent(ing) the various hosts from posting nonsense" would pretty much stop most of them from posting.

"Continuity" and "stay(ing) on message" is simply impossible in an anarchist environment, and an environment of incompetent anarchists, at that!

On the other hand, if your purpose is to NOT make a positive difference, then de facto anarchy insures your positive message will, at best, collapse in the muddle of trivial nonsense and truly delusional conspiracy theories that are the hallmark of the current management at VoR.

Again, The War of the Passive Aggression.

It looks to me like you weren't really supposed to organize a "for-real" Network.

Instead, you were to use YOUR good name, YOUR contacts, and YOUR experience to round up all of the competent people who might form the nucleus on an intelligent opposition with a positive perspective on Race - and even Christianity.

More about that to follow.

you wrote:
All of this helps the network gain credibility. That is the key to a successful network.

Credibility.

This is why I refuse to let VoR spin this story in such a way that will damage my credibility.

I left the network because of the incompetence and duplicity of the VoR "leadership".

If the reverse were true, they would have fired me and would have been justified in doing so.

in reply:
Network economics demonstrates that networks add value beyond the incremental cost of the incremental node.

This can cascade fairly quickly, if you know what you are doing.

I think this was their fear - you might actually begin to succeed with this thing, and, being White Nationalists, "We Can't Have THAT, Can We?"

you wrote:
New America, your analysis of the situation is very accurate. I would add that your comments regarding GCN, are not verifiable at this point in time.

in reply:
I know, but a VoR HOST running threads that are nothing more than an advertisement for a GCN host, his GCN show, his seed business, and, implicitly, GCN, is one thing.

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

That this thread stayed, and stays to this day, says that VoR quite approves of it, and this approval is quite explicit.

WHY?

Well, from my days in business, I would note that that thread had links back to GCN in it. "Click on the picture!"

GCN could not ask for a better market test than that; they would know EXACTLY what kind of response to expect from VoR/The Patriot Dames.

Of course, maybe I am wrong about all of this; after all, it is only a hypothesis I am putting forth.

Can you imagine in the Patriot Dames get some Saturday gig on RBN and did this?

"Hi, I'm Susie, of the Patriot Dames. My special guest today is my good friend John from GCN, and we have a special promotion of his special seeds for you, today, during this show..."

You would probably have Stadtmiller going to his computer and typing in "ARM REMOTE DETONATORS."

; )

So, my guess is, a couple of days of "cooling off," and the Silly Sisters will be back on VoR, unless they are picked up by GCN or RBN.

Stop laughing!

you wrote:
I would suggest that the events of the last few weeks have more to do with incompetence on the part of Dietrich and less to do with some behind the scenes machinations involving GCN and the VoR "leadership".

in reply:
I hope so, but the Patriot Dames/GCN thread remaining up says something, and we'll find ou pretty soon exactly what is says, and what it means.

"Incompetence" is pretty much the synonym for White Nationalists, and Briseis addressed, briefly, the issue that I keep addressing and no one in the WNist "Community" wants to touch, and that is the lack of Adult Masculine Competency in the young men attracted to the WN2/M.

Now, I can see why.

you wrote:
I will say this; Ed Steele is a big proponent of getting Tard / survivalist sponsors and became very impatient at my reluctance to approach these sponsors on behalf of his show.

in reply:
Might this explain why we haven't heard from Ed on GCN?

He never mentioned any appearances on GCN in his emails, and this might be part of the reason why.

GCN seems to be run by businessmen, and they really don't like to share the wealth, at all.

More about Ed directly.

you wrote:
I suggested using the PBS model, and work with donations and grants from like minded individuals and organizations.

But this would put the money in the network's hand and not the individual host's program.

Ed laughed at the idea and sarcastically remarked, " Well I guess I should make T-Shirts and bumper stickers?"

I said, "That's not a bad idea. You could also sell your book."

He hung up and that was the last time I spoke to Ed other than my phone call to tell him I was leaving the network.

Ed is a lawyer. Do the math.

in reply:
Notice something about Ed.

A few emails back, he mentioned directly how financially drained he had been by his efforts on behalf of the White Nationalist legal struggle; in effect, if memory serves, he has to send his kids to a school that is not as good as the school he wants to send them to.

Not one class in law school deals with how expensive it can be to BE a lawyer, much less a good one.

This run for Governor - as an Independent Constitutionalist - might open the door to possible opportunities for Ed.

Note that he mentions how he is not one of the bad racists; why, the head of the Constitution Party in Idaho is his friend, as well as being an African-American.

Note that, in his last show, Ed mentioned how he really is s Christian, and now, a Church-going Christian, at that.'

These are certainly consistent with the sort of things you say if you are running for political office.

This also opens the door for Ed to take your excellent advice, and SELL "t-shirts, bumper stickers, and his book." These would just be t-shirts for his political campaign. he could even do book signings for his old book, and a new book, detailing his political vision for a Constitutional Idaho, and a return to the Christian, Constitutional Values of our Great Forefathers, who, by the way, had no love for the Other Races at all...

But that's for later.

So, Ed wil lend up taking your advice, anyway, in his run for Whateever - Governor, Representative, Whatever.

Just make sure his t-shirts and bumper stickers have the words "Edgar Steele - A New America" on them, and I'll be happy.

Note that he can reuse them from campaign to campaign, as well!

He should also get a lot of traction by going to Christian churches and speaking on the issues.

In short, thanks to you, and some ideas he might have received from a poster on VoR, Edgar Steele just might be the first populist - nationalist candidate for political office the Mainstream Middle could vote FOR.

You might want to expect a call back from Ed.

After all, you will have done more FOR him than any other broadcaster, regardless of the network!

And, the commentary on the developing Christian Nation developing certainly has implications for Candidate Steele.

Note, by the way, that Ed was amazed at the positive response he got from emailers from his mention of political office.

I'll bet he can find a way to monetize that...

you wrote:
The more I look into the "world of Internet radio", the more I see individual egos fighting for dominance and audience share.

Money is also a large motivating factor.

In fairness to all concerned, you have to have some amount of ego to speak into a microphone and tell the world what you think.

But the Network should always be "above the fray", as their function is to create a coalition of "egos", and keep the team intact.

If the leadership of the Network desires the limelight, then the network is doomed.

Stadtmiller at RBN, is an example of this folly and now Deitrich at VoR.

Bernays was successful for this very reason. He stayed behind the scenes to do his job. He didn't crave the limelight.

I was ready to stop broadcasting as Program Director, and suggested I do so when first offered the position. I didn't want the other hosts to think my decisions were based on my desire to take them out of the limelight and jockey my program into a position of dominance.

If my plans as Program Director would have moved forward, I would have eventually stopped broadcasting altogether, or I would have given the job as PD, to someone else, once the Network infrastructure was in place.

A Network becomes a "network", when it is run by an egomaniacal individual that practices "the Peter Principal" and keeps the mediocre staff in place, to prevent any threat to the hierarchy in charge.

This is what we are witnessing today on the major Internet "networks".

The exception being GCN, where Ted Anderson has enough snap to stay out of the limelight and promote Alex Jones, while he stays behind the scenes selling gold-plated-horse-manure.

This is why GCN is the most successful network and Jones is the most successful broadcaster on the Internet.

Organization and discipline trump raw talent every time. Just look at the success of the Roman Army.

in reply:
Well, VoR is seeking its own level in the grand scheme of things, and we shall see what we shall see.

I suspect Edgar Steele is lurking on this site, because all of the ideas he has that are worth a damn, politically, he got from you, or those who support your efforts.

You are right about Internet broadcasters, and money being an issue.

There's a reason why none of them address issues in terms of larger political effectiveness.

But, for that, you would need an editorial staff, billboards, and t-shirts; all of the things that are forever beyond VoR, but were pretty much mandated by you, Peter.

Hint!

Edgar!

That's a hint!

Look at who has been RIGHT about all of these issues, all of the time.

Edgar!

That's a hint!

Does anybody know if "Big John Lipscomb" is a Jew? In my opinion, he kind of looks like one. Don't be fooled by the whole "rugged outdoorsman patriot" schtick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LprVIJDFIVQ

Notice in this first video that he refers to himself and the audience as "the chosen ones"! ;-)

"Big John Lipscomb" is the GCN patriotard radio show host who sells the "survivalist seeds", by the way.

;-)

Peter, could you turn on the html for BOLD and blockquotecite, if that's possible?

Thanks!

in reply to Z.O.G.:

Is that advertisement for Ol' Big John and his network still running on VoR?

Am I the only person who wonders why?

Thanks!

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